Shiv is the doer and may be likened to a vehicle. If you remove ‘i’ from Shiv, it becomes ‘shav’ (corpse). The ‘i’ represents Shakti, which is the fuel that energises this vehicle to perform action. Shakti is the force of the physical world. Shivratri is the night of merger of Shiv and Shakti making a complete whole. Shiv and Shakti pertain to manifest creation and arise from the unmanifest. The journey back to the unmanifest can be carved only through their complete merger which is the ultimate purpose of yoga and Sanatan Kriya . A practical example of merger of Shiv and Shakti is the institution of marriage where the merger of male and female leads to manifestation of a new life. If there is a mismatch in this merger of male and female, or Shiv and Shakti, the marriage remains incomplete. This imbalance is evident in the progeny who will exhibit anti-social and undesirable behaviour and traits. The rishis of yesteryear explained how incompleteness sets into the child in t...
From: info@dhyanfoundation.com < info@dhyanfoundation.com >
ReplyDelete>>>Subject: Fw: Re: your article on astro on sunday 9th.
>>>To: narendranayak@ymail.com
>>>Cc: narenyen@gmail.com
>>>Date: Friday, 15 May, 2009, 12:57 PM
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>>>>u wrote an interesting article,normally i don respond mself but this being a
serious issue n u being a serious journo i thought dat i should bring some
things to ur notice.
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>>>>Astrology is a perfect science but if tied wid maya [charges ,power etc]
then it looses its power so people who sell dis art in no way go beyond
probability.
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>>>>Ther r forces which run creation n also u n me n also this so called
rationalist.these forces in d form of an energy field r visible around an
individual,looking at an individual or his pic. its possible to tell his
emotional n physicall state.I invite this
>>>> Mr.rationalist to give us at DHYAN FOUNDATION ten pics of his choice of
seriously ill n healthy people as a mix n we will tell how many of them r
seriously ill n how many r healthy.if he wants to give pic of lok sabha
candidates then its possible to tell if
>>>> we have d date n time of d election results ,wether he is winning or
loosing.All dis wid 90 % accuracy.
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>>>>the vedic culture was a very powerfull culture n d vedic rishis were masters
of d environment,their sciences r not like modern sciences which r imperfect.i
don challenge ny1 but i do invite him to try dis out ,we have recently started
our center in bangalore
>>>> so it would be easy.
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>>>>best regards
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>>>>www.dhyanfoundation.com
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>>>>yogi ashwini
>narendranayak@ymail.com wrote:
ReplyDelete>>>we will try you out in the next election. As for the photos you could go to
any hospital and photograph 10 patients and then predict yourself. I will be in
Bangalore on the 31st May and will bring 10 pictures you could read them and
tell us about their diseases and when they will die or whether they are already
dead. You can call Subba Rao 9886679088 or Manoj 9448833231 or A.S.Nataraj at
08026696553 for the place of the meeting and we can invite the press and you can
do your predictions in their presence.
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>>>Narendra Nayak
>narendranayak@ymail.com wrote:
ReplyDelete>>From: Narendra Nayak < narendranayak@ymail.com >
>>Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 12:11:17 +0530 (IST)
>>Subject: Re: Fw: Re: your article on astro on sunday 9th.
>>To: info@dhyanfoundation.com
>>
>>I am not bothered by your dropping of names or testimonials from so called
famous people or experiments allegedly conducted at hospitals.
>>We would like a practical demonstration in the presence of public and members
of the press. The diagnosis can be limited to
>>1. The photographed person in dead or alive.
>>2. The disease the person is suffering from or died from.
>> The photographs and the solutions will be in sealed envelops. The one
containing the photograph will be opened first and after the solutions are
noted, the one with the information about the patient will be opened.
>> As for your statement about faith in culture which is totally uncalled
for I do wonder what a person like you with faith in culture is doing in Europe,
as the culture which you claim to be representing considers crossing the seas as
a deed which needs one to be declared as a out caste.
>> You may kindly depute the person from your organisation who is willing
to take up our challenge on the 31st of May.
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>>Narendra Nayak
You asked me to do predictions for people, so I did and told u. What happened? I
ReplyDeletedont need to drop names, I only am trying to educate you on culture and the
truth of yoga which obviously you are not aware of. I see no reason for your
being rude here...
You are talking to a yogi so would suggest ask your parents or an elder the
protocol. (Its a part of the culture)
I dont intend to bother you also, are you suggesting that Europeans have no
culture? Crossing the seas and loosing culture? I am amused at this hypothesis.
You do need a lecture on culture and I would suggest that as a responsible
journalist you should not have such an inflated ego and learn what you dont
know.[ I dont mind learning tricks of journalism from you]
As far as the challenge goes, Dhyan Foundation does not take or give challenges,
it educates and we are willing to educate anywhere and anytime.
I would suggest send us ten pictures, five of people who are seriously ill
living or dead [seriously ie cancer or something as serious] and five who are
healthy with a normal emotional state and no illness. [You should have the
medicall reports ready to prove ]
We shall identify the sick from the healthy with 100% accuracy.
In the the pictures, they can be all looking healthy ie pictures can be of a
time when they were healthy.
As I am travelling, you may speak to Arti 09810284557, she works for the french
embassy and can easily do the above. In the event if she cant travel on 31st
then please mail her the pics a day before and someone from bangalore center
would come with the answers wherever you want them to come.
yogi ashwini
YOGI ASHWINI IN RESPONSE TO THE ARTICLE ON NIRMUKTA.COM
ReplyDeleteThis write up by this so called rationalist narender nayak seems most irrational
I had asked him for ten pictures to be mailed to us and had told him that someone from the foundation would come to this meeting with the predictions,he seems to have got scared and not sent us any ,on the other hand he is using derogation in his writings,words like con man etc, i would have assumed a rational person to first try before passing judgements,but he seems to be suffering from a disease where one only hears and sees what one wants to,and is scared of the truth so he lives in a make believe world, the disease is called selective amnesia
firstly he quotes me "astrology is a perfect science" and forgets that i had also said "away from the bondages of maya" i think that its selective amnesia at play. and astrology is a science as science has laws which have been prooved and here we are willing to proove and he is evading and being derogative .him not understanding this obviously confirms that he has no idea about culture or science,at one place he actually said that if "you go to europe you loose your culture" i asked him "you think europeans have no culture"
i think a combination of fear and selective amnesia made him give a deaf ear to this question.
secondly he is assuming i am selling yog in europe[he used the word peddle] he has not even bothered to ask me why i am here? same symptoms of the disease are apparent
thirdly he goes ahead and calls the press completely forgetting that we have had a conversation with mr rao[on his suggestion]where we have asked him that why the pictures are not being sent? have these people heard of a machine where we will put the pictures in and get the scan out?mr rao seems to agree with us that such a machine does not exist and it is ok to send pics to test the clairevoyance abilities,but this so called rationalist nayak is continously exhibiting the symptoms of this disease and forgetting everything,
fourthly he calls our culture materialistic?he surely is talking about something which he does not understand,[sick brain , same symptoms]
he had asked me for ten predictions , and when i sent him ,he became abusive and also said i am dropping names? how do you predict without testimonials? i am sure he would have an answer to this also,selective amnesia made him forget the testimonials.
he commented about the dhyan foundation as being a profit center i think selective amnesia is again at play,our website clearly states that we do not charge anyhing for any service,
yogi ashwini
(reply sent on 30th May)
ReplyDeleteDear Rationalists (including Ajita and Mr Nayak)
We have made it amply clear to Sh Narendra Nayak as well as the sectty of the rationalists group, Sh Subbarao vide my telephonic conversation with him eaqrly this week that since it is not possible for people to travel to bangalore, we would still want to have the photographs of the said people sent to us and on 31st may we would have someone from Bangalore visit your seminar and present the results to you all.
None of your articles or your replies comment on why you are not sending the photographs. Mr Subbarao was quite courteous over the phone, however he made no mention of the urgency of the matter nor did he comment on why no photo is being sent, he did express a keen desire on part of your group to listen to someone on the subject whenever convenient. He also informed me that it will be nice if someone from bangalore attends the session on the 31st of May just to listen to what goes on and that we can have someone travel from Delhi to make the presentation whenever convenient.
He also informed that the person who comes to attend should know Kannada as the event is conducted in Kannada.
While Mr Subbarao did sound quite reasonable, looking at the language used by Mr Nayak and Ajita in the notes above, it is a no brainer that these 2 individuals are working in complete defiance of their own Comments Guidelines.
Additionally any person with slightest bit of education would know that no machine exists which has the capacity to scan the photograph and give an opinion. (unless if rationalists know of something hitherto unknow to mankind)
What are the 2 of you trying to achieve by hiding facts ?
And by the way do speak to Mr Subbarao, and in case he is a truthful person, it just might save you some effort of hyperventilating.
Ashish
Let us not talk of standards as it is a majorly abused and misused world. My entire mail has not been replicated above and has been edited and answers given to points which were not even mentioned by me. Which clearly shows that your organisation thrives on sensationalising issues rather than seeking a rationale in the subject.
ReplyDeleteYou have stated that Non commercial does not indicate that the organisation is not a profitable organisation. You may be making money out of funds raised by you, Dhyan Foundation doesn't. and we dont even feel need to prove that to you as there are competent authorities to evaluate that.
You have have millions to waste just to gain popularity (reference your offer to astrologists). If you are a truly socially responsible organisation it would help if you can use that money to feed people.
As for cameras and legitimate reporters, sufficient proofs exist with the press and if you have any bit of ligitimacy in your organisation, have the strength to publish our replies in their entirety.
Lastly you cannot sidetrack the issue of your lack of complete knowledge on the subject and technology to that extent. Learn to accept truth rather than presenting our replies to suite your needs, and cover up your inadequacies.
Please give a rational explanation on how can we cheat you.
Ashish
It is 10:07 AM on 31st May and within last half an hour, post my above mentioned reply on the Rationalists site Ajita has changed (his / her ) posting to ensure that the so called rationalists do not get into an uncomfortable situation for which they do not have answers.
ReplyDeleteThey have also neither posted my reply as given above and have also taken away the edit or reply rights from the page. I have the screen shot of the non editable page fro rationalists website.
No wonder why they consider everyone else a cheat. The rationalist group is modifying the content and manipulating with their own replies to keep an upperhand on their website. One of the most unscruplous lots that i have seen so far.
I had also posted my reply to their change to the already existing posted reply just a few minutes back and that too was not accepted by their site.
Ashish
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ReplyDeleteI went to nirmukta.com where i read the whole article(which i can make out has been done for publicity of the website) by a person who calls herself the editor, i state herself because if you scroll down, after the article you will find contact the author in which the e-mail is for Ajita Kamal.
ReplyDeleteFirstly why is AJITA scared to put up her name on the article?
2ndly: why has the 'leave a comment' column been removed now from the page? (are they afraid and don't want people to know the right facts?)
3rdly: if ajita says she is just the middle person between the website and the author, then please tell who the writer is?
now this is very unrational from a group that calls themselves rationalists.... i think they are just trying to degrade and defame the foundation. When they themselves being journalists should understand that this form of Yog is there in the country since so many years.
Many have stated this before and i will again Quote" Dhyan-Foundation is a non profit organisation'
I would also tell the author of the article on nirmukta.com to go through your article before posting as you've made quite a few grammatical mistakes. Which shows you were in a haste just to post the article without having any understating of yog. According to me Nirmukta.com is the one trying out the stunt for their publicity. Maybe its the recession and they are hit with it. I think you(nirmukta.com editor) should try applying on naukri.com or shine.com for a better job.
And why doesn't some nirmukta representative comes to Delhi if wants to test the foundation? It just shows they want to be a pro in there own ally. Where we never denied of sending someone over from here. According to me all this is useless and Nirmukta just wants to make a quick buck.
Now probably my quote will also be taken and put up in a weird manner on their website. Which by the way can be edited any time, to nirmuktas preference so they dont come out as the one doing the bad deed.
Please respect the energies, that is all i want to say. Even if you do not believe in them, then do not disrespect them. Talk about things which better suite you like stars or time travel which most rationalists love to talk about.
Sulabh
Dear Narendra,
ReplyDeleteI have so much to say. Where should I start? Let me first introduce myself. I am a journalist working with India Today. I have done Philosophy (hons) from Lady Shri Ram college. It will suffice to say that I am well versed with our Culture, heritage and have an inquisitive mind.
I am deeply saddened by your article above. Isn’t a rationalist someone who first tests, gets his results before proclaiming anything to anyone. Have you done that? I wish your inconsistent article stopped at just that. I will step by step show the inconsistencies to you.
Lets begin at the so-called PR photos with the mace you talk about. Did you know that the art of mace movements is a practice in itself, a very tough one on that. Have you ever tried it? I doubt it. Our ancient texts, our culture spoke about energies–they believed that everything and every being in this universe is an energy. Do you know what energy a Gada signifies? How would you? But you still choose to comment about it. Let me forgive you here as an ignorant being.
I moved onto the next part of the same paragraph. “Peddling” spirituality. Interesting, but ignorant slander. Again do you know that Dhyan Foundation is 100% not 99.9% but 100% voluntary organisation. Not a single person is paid for anything. Fancy this, members of Dhyan Foundation spend their own money to go teach people all over the globe. In return they ask for nothing. Yogi Ashwini does not even take a glass of water from anyone. Do you know that they run schools for the underprivileged, take care of blind girls, polio affected children, hold langars for thousands of people.. i could go on. Do you see “peddling”? Yes you do, because you refuse to see. I guess I am correct in saying you are ignorant, close minded and arrogant.
Patanjali’s Yog sutras talk about siddhis that a yog practitioner is blessed with (they also call them pitfalls as they are meant to distract the yogi from his path and get stuck in the world of maya). Now one of the siddhis mentioned is that of clairvoyance. There are many others. To dismiss these siddhis as pseudoscience strikes me as strange. Experience it, then comment. What do mean by psychic yoga? Through the practice of yog your psychic sense develops.
Yog was given to us many thousands of years ago, as a documented fact. At Dhyan Foundation yog is practiced in its purest most pristine form. They are fighting against a consumer driven world, where yog has been reduced to a business, where people are charging money for the science, where astrology (astrology is accurate only as long as it is not done for personal benefit and monetary gain) and ayurved is commercial, where charity is done not for evolution but to show off to members of your community, where religion is confused with spirituality.
I will have to admit that your article seems very childish to me. Only fools make comments before experiencing something. Do you call an orange bitter or sweet without tasting it?
Science can be defined as: Observation and description of a phenomenon or group of phenomena; Performance of experimental tests of the predictions by several independent experimenters and properly performed experiments; Use of the hypothesis to predict the existence of other phenomena, or to predict quantitatively the results of new observations. Do you know what science is?
Ridhi
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ReplyDeleteFoR BEnefit oF aLL... THE ARTICLE which initiated this CHAIN REACTION...
ReplyDeleteA Rs 10- lakh challenge to astrologers
By Sowmya Aji in Bangalore
IF YOU are an astrologer confident of your command over the subject, here’s a chance to win Rs 10 lakh by winning a bet.
Narendra Nayak, a rationalist from Mangalore, Karnataka, has challenged astrologers to answer 20 out of 25 questions about the ongoing elections to earn Rs 10 lakh.
Nayak, who is the president of the Federation of Indian Rationalists Association, feels astrology is “ absolute nonsense”. His aim in issuing this challenge is to bring about some rationality among the political class.
“ Politicians are going to astrologers for everything.
Soon, will we ask astrologers when tax should be increased or whether the nuclear deal should be signed. Will we ask astrologers what time we should react to a terror attack?” he asked.
Nayak has been issuing such challenges to astrologers since 1991.
In the 2004 Lok Sabha elections, only one person managed to get seven out of the 25 answers right, but he was no astrologer.
He turned out to be a rationalist from Belgaum, who had given answers based on instinct and newspaper reports.
Not a single astrologer had predicted at the time that Manmohan Singh would become the prime minister.
“ In this fight for rationalism, I had challenged even the man considered to be the father of astrology, the late B. V. Raman, who had claimed that astrology was a science. This time, I have fixed Rs 10 lakh as the prize because I am confident they cannot get even 70 per cent of the answers right,” Nayak said.
“ If astrology is such an accurate science that people can insist ‘ The marriage must take place at 12.12 pm only’, astrologers should be able to get 80 per cent of the answers correct. I want to see the application of scientific methodology to such predictions, and the extent of accuracy,” he added.
The queries that Nayak has asked include: 1. Who will be the next PM of India? 2. Which party or combination of parties will come to power? 3. How many seats will each of the parties listed below win? ( The answers should be in units, not ranges, correct to the nearest unit in case of single digit and + or – 10, if the number is a double digit) a) Congress, b) BJP, c) CPM, d) CPI, e) SP, f) RJD, g) JDS, h) JDU, g) DMK, h) AIADMK, i) Trinamool Congress, j) BSP.
sowmya.aji@ mailtoday.in
>--- On Wed, 20/5/09, info@dhyanfoundation.com < info@dhyanfoundation.com >
ReplyDeletewrote:
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>>From: info@dhyanfoundation.com < info@dhyanfoundation.com >
>>Subject: Re: Fw: Re: your article on astro on sunday 9th.
>>To: narendranayak@ymail.com
>>Date: Wednesday, 20 May, 2009, 6:51 PM
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>>Dhyan Foundation has already done such an experiment with Max and Apollo
Hospitals, New Delhi.
The names of the People who have experienced this will be available on request. All the names are of senior people, in case you require them, we would be happy to oblige you.
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>>I am in Europe till June end.
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>>I do not publicize my name , any ordinary foundation member can give
predictions and would be happy to do so for any sceptic who has no faith in his
culture. I shall guarantee the authenticity.
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>>You may contact dhyan foundation for future correspondence.
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>>yogi ashwini
May 30, 2009 6:53 PM
I have experienced many miracles with Yogi Ashwini. I shall narrate one such incident. I was the only one who knew the whole programme at Yogi ji's book launch (held at Intercontinetal Eros, Nehru Place) where the cheif guest was Hon'ble Chief Minister Shrimati Sheila Dikshit and the welcome address was by Additional Solicitor General Gopal Surabmanium. I was running late. The function was starting in 10 minutes and I was still getting ready in Vasant Vihar. I had heard that Yogis transcend time and this is exactly what happened. If you are aware about Delhi roads and traffic you will know that it is impossible to reach in less than 10 minutes from Vasant Vihar to Nehru Place. But that is exactly what happened.
ReplyDeleteSo how dare people of nirmukta.com dismiss this as mumbo-jumbo. They are supposedly a group of rationalists but have behaved in a completely irrational and arrogant manner, without verifying a single fact.
Ruchi
Former Vice President Marketing, First City publications
1. The Dhyan Foundation and it’s guiding light “Yogi Ashwini Ji”, have been solely responsible in giving my life an absolutely new meaning. In the few months that i have known Yogi Ashwini ji, i have experienced miracles on a regular basis. Miraculous changes in my emotional, physical and financial condition.
ReplyDeleteNever before in my life did i have the good fortune of meeting someone as pure and selfless as Yogi Ji, the dedication he has towards helping each and every being who has the good fortune of meeting him, is unmatched.
The Dhyan Foundation is a charitable organization, and the only organization that i have seen, which continues to follow the same methods of teaching yog in today’s day and age, as was done thousands of years back by our ancient rishi’s. It is the only organization i have seen which is 100% non-commercial and does not charge a single rupee for teaching yog in it’s purest form.
I will request Mr. Nayak to get his facts straight immediately. What do you know about the ‘mace’???? It is a pure energy, and it has it’s own sadhana which brings about immense strength, stability, glow and balance in the body.
But ofcourse, in your eyes and in your “rational” understanding it can never be anything more than a tool for “dramatic effect”.
Dear Mr. Nayak,
ReplyDeleteI was reading your article and to my utter dismay I found your statements 'conclusive', 'biased' and highly 'opinionated'. Pardon my saying Mr. Nayak, but I am a scientist by profession & a psychologist by degree and have published many scientific papers in international journals.
I too like any educated 'being' seek to find out the hidden 'Truth'. But, to do so, one has to have an unbiased & receptive mind, which evidently you don't.
I fully comprehend the meaning of words like 'science', 'experiment', 'pseudoscience' etc, that you have liberally used in the article.
Interesting, it seems you haven't really done your home-work well.
Let me ask you questions which I think you should seriously reflect upon, not for me or for anyone but for your own self.
a) Do you know what profitable organization is? b) Do you understand what Indian culture is all about?
c) Do you really know the meaning of words, like Guru/Stability/Balance/Harmony/Psychic abilities?
d) And, coming to the basic word like-
What is science? Science stands on two pillars - validity and reliability. Anything that stands the test of time and yields the same results over and over again (given the same set of conditions).
And yes, Yoga if practiced in its true/undiluted form is the highest form science. (I am assuming that we both have a common understanding of these words and that they are not functional definitions).
Now, your next question would be, why am I making such tall claims? Trust me Mr. Nayak, it is not to prove you wrong (for I have no vested interest) but to inform you that you have a long way to learn. A quick suggestion from a practitioner, don't 'Intellectualize' for you will achieve nothing, try to attain 'Gyan' of this deep and scientific subject (ie Yoga).
I have been practicing what Yogi Ji has been saying for over 4 years and I have experienced every bit of it. I have realized that without experience there can be no growth :)
I cannot end my comments without not sharing this little truth with you. What ordinary people call 'miracles', for a Yogi, there is no miracle, these are manifestation of the truth. The day, the un-manifested reveals itself, it no longer exists as a miracle. But for that revelation to happen, you as an individual have to be an evolved soul, a higher form of energy - which is pure/undiluted/un-adultered/an selflessly serving mankind, which Yogi ji stands for and much more.
Dhyan Foundation under the scientific and ethereal light of Yogi ji is a not-for- profit body organization striving to preserve the Indian culture and selflessly serving mankind.
Hi
ReplyDeleteMy name is mohan and am a fashion designer by profession and have been working for t-series group- clothing and export division as a head designer.
It has been a deeply disappointing experience to read the article by mr.narendra nayak. It seems that the author is living in a completely ignorant world in which he is not ready to except the Vedic philosophy, and sciences given by them for the absolute betterment of the society who didn’t even mention their names on the scriptures. Such is our culture.
As far as I have experienced Great Yogi Ashwini, who is on his own guiding millions of people across the country and the world to walk in the right direction and have been feeding and educating countless street children. Yogi ji is handling thousands of His students personally teaching them the absolute science of Yoga in its purest and pristine form the way way it was given by our Vedic rishis without charging them anything across the globe.
Such is the Being –Yogi Ashwini,
Ignorance is a fool’s tool to look at the world, a wise man experiences and then utters a word. So mr.narendra nayak should come down to Yogi ji’s feet to experience the science first and then should think about writing because the job of a journalist is of a higher responsibility and a powerful one, so rather then misusing his strength and misguiding whatever 100-200 readers you have, he should propogate the Real Essence and Divine Strength of Yogi Ashwini.
Yesterday we went to meet the self proclaimed Rationalists Narendra Nayak,SubbaRao and their coterie of some 27 people (or less ) in a place where they spend one lazy Sunday morning every month to dissect things/issues they cannot fathom, to generally amuse themselves.Funnily, the chairs are dusty,much like their minds!
ReplyDeleteRationalism , as defined , is "the principle or habit of accepting reason as the supreme authority in matters of opinion, belief, or conduct".(Narendra and Co may please refer the following link :http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/rationalist ).In our interactions, we saw that clearly reason was not even their distant cousin.
Our agenda was simple and clear.To understand their arbit and defamatory statements on Yogiji,the science,the philosophy and the various accusations levelled.In the course of the conversation we discovered that for us to be able to understand their reason, they should have had one...Needless to say, they had none.They had proclaimed us guilty even before a trial (Not that we care about their trials!).They had gone ahead and made an announcement of Yogiji's so called challenge of making predictions of healthy and unhealthy people in their dusty hole in Bangalore,despite Yogiji having rejected the challenge of being there and making predictions.From the very beginning , they were asked to mail photographs of 5 healthy and 5 sick people for predictions.They did not bother to do so and continued their tirade for a cause,unknown even to them.
They accused Yogiji and Dhyan Foundation of making money and did not bother to educate themselves on the Foundation being non commercial.They defiled not only a pure and selfless person like Yogiji but the science itself.
The wierdest thing is that they ask questions but decide the answers themselves!!The answers , though, have no research nor reason backing them.
When we questioned them on the write ups on Nirmukta website by members of the Rationalist Organisation, they were quick to disown the comments stating that the individual had written in his personal capacity and not as a representative of the Association.!!!Oink!!So what were we there for?To satisfy the curiosity of that one individual or the Association , which itself isn't clear what it wants to prove?After being served with various such googlies, we decided to leave them with their idiosyncrasies and went on to do what we best do - charity!I surely was not in a very charitable mood to suffer them anymore, so off we went and distributed food to the migrant labourers like we always do.
And now, Narendra Nayak,I am as Rational and cosmopolitan as the terms actually imply and not as you choose to interpret them.Let me tell you of my personal experience with the phenomena called Yogi Ashwiniji.I was virtually bedridden and was leading a vegetated existence for few years till Life was intercepted with Divine grace and I met Yogiji.In the last few years of my association with him, nor I have found a more purer soul but also none who was serving humanity with zilch personal agenda.I guess for dusty minds, it is rather a difficult thing to accept but thats nothing but the truth.Doctors had given up on my state and my illness which had no cure even in Modern medicine and told me to take recourse to Yoga (I was told so by none other than the Ex-Director of NIMHANS, who was heading the Neurology Department of a leading hospital in Delhi and under whom I was undergoing treatment).My umpteen encounters with Yoga teachers only lead to more disappointment as they thought I was not "fit" to do Yoga,It was only Yogiji who took me under his wings and kickstarted my journey to recovery.Under his guidance and grace, I started the Bangalore chapter of Dhyan Foundation and we have reached out and benefitted scores of people.Apart from having held workshops at most major IT companies,NAB,Dhyan Foundation,Bangalore holds regular classes at a Government School, feeds migrant labourers etc.All this only through volunteers like myself, who believe in aiding mankind through selfless devotion and dedication.All this in just a matter of months under the Divine guidance of Yogiji.I am now not only leading a complete existence but am also able to do so much more for mankind, only because of Yogiji.
ReplyDeleteThat ofcourse for ratioNILS, It is rather difficult to comprehend.
We shall,hence, leave you in your dusty holes with SPM- Suspended Particulate Mindless thoughts while we silently continue to benefit humanity and prove to the world that Silence is indeed Golden.That it is also deafening to the likes of you too doesnt hurt us...
Hi. I have been closely following the psychic yoga challenge from the first day. My only question to the group of rationalists is dat Where are the photos you were supposed to mail to the Dhyan foundation members? You would have received all your answers by just doing this one simple thing you had volunteered to do.
ReplyDeleteWithout doing the same how can you expect to find your answer and experience the power of yoga?( which i beleive you are noy even interested to know).
As for the illogical talking you guys have been doing i would just like to remind you What a rationalist actually is? ( coz i'm sure with the way you have behaved and the things that you have said you seemed to have forgotten what you stand for). A rationalist is a person who accepts reason as the supreme authority in matters of opinion, beleif or conduct.And all that you Rationalists have done is to pass judgements and comment about the Dhyan Foundation and Yogi Ashwini and yog without even knowing the facts or experiencing anything. My only advice to you would be to grow up and behave like responsible citizens and not fools.
Yes, you should definately not beleive in things without experiencing them firsthand but then you should not comment and call anyone(especially a yogi) names without experiencing the truth. You were given an oppurtunity to learn for yourself but your ego and arrogance got the better of you.
Dear Ajita and Nayak,
ReplyDeleteI read thru your website and wrote an informed letter to you . I am awating a reply . On reading Anjana's above given article I wish to respond to the whole matter here on this blog.
Quite clearly Anjana's presence at the above meet is ample proof of Yogi ji's response. We at Dhyan Foundation are here to validate any claim that we make.
Wasting precious time on intellectual debate is not how Dhyan Foundation functions.
Ours is a path of Tapasya , where time is used for benifit of humanity without barriers of creed caste religion gender or locality.
Anjana's last remark is a pointer in this direction. She and other foundation sadhaks went on to serve food to the needy. which is a prime activity of the foundation.
as i wrote in my letter to you Ajita do please learn to seperate the truth from false hood.
Yogi Ashwini stands as a pure symbol of true Yoga.His teachings are helping people worldwide and humanity is being helped.
Wake up and see the truth for your own self.
nitasha
In a quarter century of journalism, I have not read even a single report, not even by an internee reporter, that is as devoid of ethics as is Mr Nayak’s piece. How very scientific and rational of Mr Nayak to heap abuses on anyone!!! But it takes a scandalously low witted person to call names to a Yogi, then too without knowing Him at all!!
ReplyDeleteWorse still, cynicism is being employed as a substitute for intelligence; invective as a substitute for facts (Yogi Ashwini is “peddling superstition in Europe” and is a “con artist” !!); bombast in place of reasonable arguments and pomposity is seeking to parade itself as reason.
Mr Rationalist, why don’t you begin by educating yourself about the meaning of the word, “rationalist?” If you need help, I can suggest a number of the best dictionaries.
If a rationalist like you had your way, the Geeta would be a piece of fiction rather than the most scientific study of human consciousness, there would have been no Yogis in the rich history of India; the Gada, that codifies the science of the energy field of the earth, would never have been a symbol of noble power against the forces of darkness (that is precisely why a pure Yogi like Yogi Ashwini wields it with ease) and all those great Yogis (Yogi Ashwini is the greatest I know personally) who inhabit my beautiful country would be sheer myth.
It is better to keep your mouth shut and have people believe you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt. This great saying applies aptly to you Mr Rationalist.
Without expending too much energy on trying to cure you of your ego and cynicism, which are two major diseases many so-called intelligent people suffer from, let me inform you that Surgeon Rear Admiral Karni Singh, who is a top neuro scientist in the Indian Defence, is conducting research on some students of Yogi Ashwini because they are astounding samples of the power of Yog, but more than that the purity of Yogi Ashwini. Yog is not possible without the Guru and He is a great Yog Guru as reflected in the feats of His students.
Yog is the mother of all sciences. Such is the appeal of Yog to a truly rational and scientific mind that Lyall Watson, a biologist, ended up writing bestsellers like “Supernature” and “The Romeo Error”--all based on years of studying the fascinating eastern mysticism/sciences.
However, it is a highly ethical science. The moment it is commercialized it begins to lose its efficacy. This is the reason why Yogi Ashwini never misses an opportunity to tell His students and anyone who cares to listen that Yog has to kept be scrupulously away from commerce. And, He preaches only what He practices.
Jagpreet Luthra
Editor Lok Sabha TV
I can personally vouch that neither He nor any of His students accept even a glass of water for all the stupendous service they are doing. They are a rare breed of Yogi and students as they spend their own money on conducting Yog workshops all over India and in foreign lands. This is besides a number of charity projects for the poor in the field of education and health they are running, and all on the steam of donations from their hard-earned money. Charity and Service are mandatory for all students of Yogi Ashwini.
ReplyDeleteEvery single rupee that comes as donation from the volunteers is accounted for, and proper receipts are issued.
A school started by them in the backyard of a house in Gurgaon is a wonderful experiment in the power of Yog to foster democracy. It was so motivating that I made a documentary on it, titled, “Democracy is Divine.”
Yog truly has the power to turn an ordinary human being into a divine being and that is ONLY possible under the guidance of a great and pure Yog Guru like Yogi Ashwini. Having interacted with at least a dozen saints, mystics and yogis over the last decade and having read piles of books on eastern mysticism and Vedic sciences I can say that Yogi Ashwini is like a breath of fresh air. To equate Him to the many fakes and to level false allegations against Him are a crime.
Mr Nayak, I advise you to inform yourself before you blunder further. Don’t be so puffed up with your piddly ego. Employ your words to spread truth, not lies. Don’t waste your precious life and don’t mislead people who have faith in your intelligence. This note of mine, I hope, would remove the blinkers from all your eyes.
As a journalist committed to the spread of truth, I have been compelled to write this. As a seeker who has found a goldmine in Yog and Yogi Ashwini, I pity you for squandering the precious opportunity you had to be guided by a pristine Yogi. Anyone, even a wee bit intelligent, would have been grateful to Him for His precious guidance. All I can say about you is that you are a sad loser.
This note was blacked out in Mr Nayak’s website; so, the need to post it here.
Jagpreet Luthra
Editor Lok Sabha TV
The events that I have witnessed at Dhyan Foundation have made me change my complete view point. They have convinced me that there is something which we as doctors who do a lot of research and study, cannot comprehend with mere logic, analysis and physical parameters. The Foundation members have carried out healing under the guidance of their Guru Yogi Ashwini, on patients who had negligible chances of recovery. This statement was made by specialists at renowned institues like Apollo and Max Hospital and despite all contrary evidence, these patients recovered and are leading a healthy life.
ReplyDeleteToday I am sure that despite all evidence, if Dhyan Foundation takes on a case the chnaces of recovery will be 100%.
Dr (Birg) Ravi Kale
Brig Administration and Consultant paediatric Surgeon
Command Hospital CentraL Command
Lucknow
Being associated with Yogiji for over 11 years my husband and I am shocked at the comments of the President of the Rationalist Organization. Coming from an educated family of bureaucrats and being an educationist myself, I find the remarks of the ‘Rationalists’ immature and childish.
ReplyDelete“Peddling” What a word to use and in what context! Kindly get your facts and figures right. Dhyan Foundation is the only charitable non profitable organization imparting the knowledge of Yog on guru-shishya parampara. Not a single penny is being charged for the workshops conducted by the foundation.
Rationalists I am told are open to ideas and suggestions, ponder, think, experiment, rationalize and then come to conclusions. I would suggest you come here, stay with us at our expense of course, and see how we work.
Saanch ko aanch nahi . It is Yogiji’s benevolence that he agreed to throw light on the power of Yog else he has no need to prove anything. Posted on 31st May,2009
What an organisation! I must say. Most of the mails had been moderated and those that were beyond your moderation found no place on your ESTEEMED RATIONAL WEBSITE. I did not see my comments on your website. May I expect a reply from your side for the same. Posted on 3rd June,2009. Deepa Diddi
ReplyDeleteThe comments by Mr.Nayak are highly irresponsible and baseless. It is evident that the man has no idea of what he is speaking and for whom? I would like to inform the rationalists that in Yog everything is done for the welfare of mankind. The mace carried by Hanumanji was used to serve his Lord Shri Ram and not for heightening his PR.
ReplyDeleteIn Yog , one can make use of these revered energies only after years of practice, and after attaining sidhis with the blessings of one’s Guru. In Yog a disciple follows the instructions of his Guru and is not interested or affected by public opinion. A word of caution and advice to the rationalists. Please do not spoil your karma by speaking ill of spiritual gurus for cheap publicity. Posted on 31st May, 2009.Shivank
Mail sent by narendra nayak to me today highlighting that his 2 mails have bounced back in the past. I am unable to replicate the entire mail here as the blog software is not supporting some tags in the mail
ReplyDeleteAnyone desirous of having access to the complete mail can mention so on the net and i will forward the mail in its entirety to you.
Ashish
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Date: Monday, 25 May, 2009, 12:57 PM
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>narendranayak@ymail.com wrote:
>>From: narendranayak@ymail.com
>>Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2009 06:51:13 -0400
>>Subject: Dhyan Foundation :: Contact Us
>>To: dhyan@dhyanfoundation.com
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>>Dhyan Foundation :: Contact Us
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>>Name: narendra nayak
>>Email ID: narendranayak@ymail.com
>>Subject: your offer to predict
>>Message: ashwini had offered to take up the challenge to diagnose cancer and living status of people by seeing their photographs. what happened to that? emails to your foundation are bouncing back.
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Response to Narendra's mail above from Dhyan Foundation -
ReplyDelete--- On Sat, 6/6/09, dhyan@dhyanfoundation.com dhyan@dhyanfoundation.com wrote:
From: dhyan@dhyanfoundation.com dhyan@dhyanfoundation.com
Subject: Fwd: Re: Fwd: Dhyan Foundation :: Contact Us
To: narendranayak@ymail.com
Cc: anjanarajguru@gmail.com, agautam@in.ibm.com
Date: Saturday, 6 June, 2009, 10:31 AM
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>Your selective amnesia seems to be getting worse,Nayak YOU NEED HELP, We suggest you do it fast.
>Reminder:People from Bangalore center came to ur meeting [It was quite a dusty and dirty place ,but we do even go to slums to help,so it was another job for them,just that this time it was not just a dirty environment but also a dirty mind]
>Why we say a dirty mind because ,your Subba Rao and others did not seem to agree with your views.
>,they said"this is all nayaks personal view,we are not involved"
>Note the following: Now we have seen u ,
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>No pictures were provided,but still they saw u and concluded that you are a sick man and need urgent treatment and also you seem to be isolated in ur own people.
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>You seem to be a complete nobody with no antecedents or any status ,so we would want to talk to somebody who carries some value in your own organisation at least.
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>You shouted at the lady who came,again ,whatever your disease ,she was a guest at your dingy hideout and was alone ,this shows ur complete lack of culture,[remember we told u that without even looking at your picture].
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>You have called yogiji a conman and used words like "peddling Yoga",we warn you that you risk legal action by talking like this about an evolved soul,without even knowing him
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>SO we conclude that we are talking to a sick man,if ur organisation is serious about what they r saying then please tell us why:
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>1]no pictures were provided ,even when they were there on the given date?
>2]ur ppl called all this ur personal challenge and views?
>3]no press was there?
>4]without knowing yogiji ,u used abusive language on ur site?
>5]u told the lady who came from dhyan foundation,that"y r u here ,ashwini[ji,civilised ppl adress a yogi like this] was supposed to come",when u very well knew that he is in europe?
regards
dhyan foundation
www.dhyanfoundation.com
>ps. we have started a blog were u r free to post ur views,here we do not edit ppls views ,unlike ur site where u do not even post mails received
www.dhyan-foundation.blogspot.com
Mail from narendra nayak in response to note from Dhyan Foundation as mentioned above. Wonder why this man chooses to respond only on a one on one basis when he has been categorically asked to post on this blog. (Ashish)
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06/08/2009 04:55 PM
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the proof of bounced mails has been sent to all of you. two emails had bounced. You may thin that Ashwini is god almighty but for me he is another human being that is all. The selective amnesia seems to be yours. Ashwini had clearly stated in his email that even an ordinary member of the foundation could tell every thing about a person from photos. I had photos with me but none of you were ready to read them. You claimed that you are all first standard students. We quit when you threatened legal action.
You are welcome to do that.
Narendra Nayak
Narendra
ReplyDeleteTo say the least you and your bunch of time wasters namely Ajita et al are conmen. You people have manipulated and selectively posted our replies so that it helps you gain popularity. I am yet to see a coward like you who only knows to be rude , shout and scream and runs away with tail between his legs when cornered. Your elders have failed miserbaly in instilling any bit of ettiquets and sense in you.
We have posted all ours and your mails too in entirety for everyone to read. Please feel free to post if we have missed out on any ... and in your case only the genuine ones as you and Ajita are capable of posting mails which have not been sent in the first place.
While your new avatar may be helping you gain some visibility and self glorification, yet you could have done much better for the mankind had you continued with your previous job of professor of biochemistry provided you did not manipulate your lab readings like you manipulate your words.
Please make the effort to read through the entire bunch of notes above, the fundamental point raised by yogi ji was "Educate" and not "challenge". I hope you know what the difference is between the two.
Your efforts so far have been in sensationlaising rather than rationalising. What difference is there between you and a cheap fly by night news channel. I think there has to be a movement now to bring frauds like you to light.
Dear Mr Nayak
ReplyDeleteWhats the fuss about bouncing mails? Technology is a creation of people like us, it is bound to fail. We fail to understand why it should have kept you from contactin us. You had the numbers.
What we think of Yogi Ashwiniji, is something beyond the capacity of your bird sized brains to comprehend. We never expected you to. We were merely trying to make up for the lessons on basic etiquette which you seemed to have bunked as a naive child. We are still hopeful, here are few more lessons,
It is true that any basic foundation member can make predictions, but not everyone is permitted to. (DISCIPLINE)
It requires serious sadhna to acquire these siddhis, hence they are to be used judiciously for purposes of higher creation. (RESPECT for the subject and RESPONSIBILITY towards creation)
We would love to educate you, but we do not do it at the cost of progress of the serious sadhaks, that would be very selfish of us as an organization.. (SELFLESSNESS)
Hence only a few members have been given the permission to make a public display of their abilities, since it is KALYUG and that is the only way make people aware of this path.
As far as legal action is concerned, it was again a recap of Class 10th Civics lessons for you. Besides being anti culture, ethics, and etiquette--it is also unlawful to disrespect even 'another human being' by way of baseless accusations. (FYI, defamation is a criminal as well as civil offense)
Most of us are highly educated (Including Yogiji whom we do think to be a manifestation of a higher force, bravo for guessing that]-People with phds and medical doctors of repute,[thats d reason y we could diagnose your medical condition] we r not fools with nothing to do but throw challenges and then back off ,just to convince ourselves abt d size of r brains as we find that nobody recognises us.
Regards
Dhyan Foundation
www.dhyanfoundation.com
ps. all these lessons are absolutely free of cost. We are a 100% non commercial organisation, where no fee is charged for whatever is taught. (GURU SHISHYA PARAMPARA)
We have written a mail to Narendra yesterday asking him to contribute his views on www.dhyan-foundation.blogspot.com but he strangely loves to post his views only on a heavily edit conrolled site as yours where you are in control of what you want to say.
ReplyDeleteAjita, i know you will not post this note like the previous ones, or you will alter it to your will, but at least you will read this.
You people have only tried to sensationalise than rationalise the debate. And of course you made no honest attempts and of course you offered no objective platform. Narendra i assume is a bit educated (if not you on medical science) being a prof of biochem. leaving his job for his lack of visibility there. However, which machine on earth does a scan of a photograph ? we are still awaiting a reply on this from you which you so skillfully avoided on this site called Nirmukta. And you call yourself scientific ?
You have a complete lack of confidence on your own self. You do not have answers to simple questions. Yuo people are behaving are lying, manipulating, hurling accusations, hiding evets as they transpired....
As for your cultural claims - your knowledge of culture is too shallow and frivolous. You people are armachair intellects. Question . yes . but for gaining something, to increase your own gyan.. The roots of our culture are yog, which you people are scoffing at.
Mlechas are not in Europe, mlechas are people like you... if you know what a mlecha is.
And oh ! saviour of Indian culture ... We do not remember any one talking about Narendra travelling to bangalore on a bullock cart...
And by the way Narendra said that he has got nothing to do with Nirmukta ... really ??????
(copy of this note is being posted on www.dhyan-foundation.blogspot.com)
So Ajita has done the expected again. He has not posted my note nor given any reply. The skeptics are not only skeptical of others but also of themselves...
ReplyDeleteAshish
I looked up on the net and guess what, the guardian of Indian culture ...Ajita Kamla stays in New York.... need i say more ?
ReplyDeleteObviously his thinking cannot go beyond, manipulation of posts, calling Yog a cult, expecting everyone who is doing charity as having been conned. YOu only need to look at Ajita's (or should i say fajita's) photo in the most english of attires on the net and you will not disagree with me.
AS for the subject of strength, well the subject is completely alien for him...
To MR NAYAK
ReplyDelete(the strange case of YOGI ASHWINI and Dhyan Foundation)
You are waiting for Yogiji and we are waiting for the ten pictures…You seem to be writing everything which your irrational or as some people say rationil mind is looking through the disease of selective amnesia.
Why He carries the mace is something that one learns only by experience, which we are sure you would also.
We suggest instead of trying to gain publicity on the strengths of other organizations do something on your own steam.
Also, for a rational mind a public forum is where alls views are given without alterations but your irrational or rationil mind is editing most of the posts that are being on your site and eliminating most of them [THAT is a perfect public forum for an irrational or a rationil mind like yours- a mind where even your people say "these are his personal views and not our associations views"]
Here's what a young journalist has to say about the write-ups posted on Nirmukta.com:
ReplyDeleteMr. Nayak has one valid point (only one in all the articles though). It's the contradiction in what Yogi ji had told him (that any ordinary Foundation-member could read the photos) and the inability of the DF members visiting Mr. Nayak to do so. I'm pasting it directly from the article here:
When the challenge was repeated and they were asked to demonstrate their powers, every single one of them shirked and put forward the excuse that they were only first-grade students. Perhaps they were not even ordinary members of the foundation as it was the claim of “Yogi” Ashwini that “any ordinary foundation member can give predictions and would be happy to for any sceptic who has no faith in his culture”.
Other than this point, they have nothing that seems rational. The write-ups on the site don't qualify as journalistically-correct articles. They are guilty of all the cardinal sins of journalism - biased, manipulating quotes, adding opinion, unverified facts, making assumptions... No professional news agency would run these stories, as they know such nonsense words and baseless allegations are the perfect bait to attract defamation suit.
I'd like to quote Yogi ji from his book 'Thoughts Of The Inner World': "The world of spirit starts where the world of logic ends." I don't think we should be heeding the distorted and disillusioned opinion of some self-proclaimed rationalists. Fellow DF members and followers of Yogi ji, the Nirmukta.com write-ups should best be ignored, or better still, laughed at ;-)
Well well..came to know abt the so called Narendra Nayak and read most of his posts on Dhyan Foundation and Yogi Ashwini.It is said that himsa in action,words and thoughts is not to be done as a sadhak.
ReplyDeleteBut once in a while its fine.I feel this self proclaimed rationalist is no more than a publicity hunk and deserves a kick on his butt.
The powers of Yog are not for such people.Let them keep searching in their world of rationalism.
If Narendra had sent the photographs..... his rationalism ideology would have....bitten dust but what would have happenned to the publicity he was looking forward too.
Ratinalism is a garb that these people have worn to gain cheap publicity for themselves.
"Our perception about yoga and the abilities of a yogi have changed for the positive."
ReplyDelete- Indian Medical Association
The prestigious Indian Medical Association (IMA) has validated the power and efficacy of Yoga. Doctors themselves agree "80% percent of the (clairvoyant) comments matched the diagnosis, without knowing anything about the patients."
It is time to wake up to this real science!!!!
Do check out the Dhyan foundation website to watch this momentous event for yourself.
http://www.dhyanfoundation.com/dhyan-foundation-ima-certification.php
People like NArendra nayak are part of the bigger plan trying to uproot Indian culture and replace it with Vatican thoughts. These are paid journalists often committed and sponsored to damage Indian culture at any cost in the garb of journalism and rationalism. Rationalism in no way is to deny everything that is new to oneself. Till the time gravity was discovered, it may have been rejected as Non rational thought. Till the time, PRanayama was recognized as Big big healing technique, no one ever thought a breath can change one's life. Medicines may be science but Healing is not. Healing is beyond science and is not repeatable. ITs non linear. Stupid minds can not fathom the difference between Rationalism and Non linear concepts. Such simpletons like Narendra Nayak should be ashamed of themselves for propagating such stupidity with an ulterior motive.
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